The Hate U Give……First post (to page 121)
Respond to BOTH of the prompts below: Each response should be at least 150 words.
1. As Starr and Khalil listen to Tupac, Khalil explains what Tupac said “Thug Life” meant. Discuss the meaning of the term “Thug Life” as an acronym and why the author might have chosen part of this at the title of the book. In what ways do you see this is society today? (Chapter 1, p. 17)
2. At the police station after Starr details the events leading up to the shooting, the detective shifts her focus to Khalil’s past. Why do you think the detective did this? Discuss Starr’s reaction to this “bait” (Chapter 6, pp. 102-103).
1. As Starr and Khalil listen to Tupac, Khalil explains what Tupac said “Thug Life” meant. Discuss the meaning of the term “Thug Life” as an acronym and why the author might have chosen part of this at the title of the book. In what ways do you see this is society today? (Chapter 1, p. 17)
2. At the police station after Starr details the events leading up to the shooting, the detective shifts her focus to Khalil’s past. Why do you think the detective did this? Discuss Starr’s reaction to this “bait” (Chapter 6, pp. 102-103).
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ReplyDeletePrompt 1): On page 17, Khalil explains that “thug life” is an acronym for “The Hate U Give Little Infants F&%#@ Everybody.” It means that the challenges you give to people during their youth comes back to bite you in the a$$. Angie Thomas decided to use the first part of this phrase, THUG, as the title to her book. It makes sense as a title for this book because the book is about a girl growing up in a poor neighborhood whose best friend becomes a victim of police brutality. This part certainly explains THUG LI but not FE yet, so there are probably some repercussions for the police officers that are caused by Starr later in the book. This is seen in society today. Police brutality and child molestation issues are causing a divide in American politics, which threatens the safety of the world because America has enough nuclear bombs that, if we were to use them, could destroy the world multiple times. The hate we give to teens who are murdered by policemen in cold blood and the hate we give to people who were molested as children is biting our society in the a$$.
ReplyDeleteWhile Khalil and Starr are in the car, Khalil explains how Tupac said thug life stood for: The Hate U Give Little Infants Fuck Everybody. This is a really important meaning of thug life because it pretty much says that the hate that gets passed down and introduced to children just ends up screwing everybody in the future. Children growing up with parents involved in drug dealing and gang violence in general seem to eventually get caught up in it all too, because the parents expose them to it. Children are then influenced by this because it’s all they know, or because their parents get into trouble and they end up having to deal with their mistakes. So The Hate U Give by not being able to care for your children ends up messing with everyone in the future because they turn out exactly how their parents were, not being stable and caught up in bad things, and they end up not caring for anyone else because nobody cared for them.
ReplyDeleteWhile Starr is at the police station, the detective just straight up asks her if Khalil was selling drugs, and her response to that is anger and confusion, wondering what that has to do with him being shot, but realizing it’s bait to try to incriminate him. I think that the detective asked that to try to have Starr admit that he was selling drugs so that the police officer would potentially be off the hook. I think that Starr’s reaction to that question though is pretty understandable, because regardless of Khalil selling drugs or not, that had nothing to do with the reason he was pulled over. The police officer didn’t have a reason to shoot him. Yes Khalil was being a little bit of a smart mouth and shouldn’t have moved but he wasn’t being a threat, and he had nothing on him. The officer could have taken many different approaches to getting Khalil to cooperate rather than shooting him.
Prompt 2): I don’t know why Gomez shifted the topic, but Starr suspected that it might be an attempt to justify One Fifteen’s actions. That seems like a reasonable explanation. Rather than focusing on Khalil’s past and the allegations that she could be a drug dealer, Gomez should have focused on One Fifteen. Starr had explained that she didn’t know whether Khalil dealt drugs, but she had no reason to believe he did. Rather than focusing on what Starr knows, Gomez focused on what Starr doesn’t know. This could also be a way to discredit Starr’s testimony by showing how much she doesn’t know about Khalil’s past. Starr responded to the ‘bait’ by answering Gomez’s questions as calmly and properly as she could, but hood language slipped out occasionally. Starr’s mother, however, started lecturing Gomez and she pointed out the fact that Gomez was avoiding talking about One Fifteen and his actions.
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ReplyDeleteTupac's explanation for thug life is an acronym, “The Hate U Give Little Infants Fuck Everybody”. I think this quote resembles the fact that when children are exposed to gang violence and drug dealing when they are young, it affects who they grow up to be as adults. Growing up in situations where violence and drugs are prominent is detrimental on children. After seeing it happen everyday they begin to think that it is their way of life. They simply think that it is normal to do drugs and have gang wars. This influences them to potentially fall into their parents footsteps and adopt that way of life. If children are exposed to these things it may cause them to face their parents crimes or commit their own. The Hate U Give your children will build up until they essentially fuck everybody in the future. It is up to the children to break the chain of screwing everyone and change they way they look at the future.
I really like the problems that you brought up in your response, like gang wars, drug dealing, and overall violence and abuse. I think these problems are extremely relevant to The Hate U Give, as people in the book have died due to them. For example, DeVante's brother died because of gang violence, Natasha died in a gang's drive-by, and Khalil died partially because he was suspected of being a drug dealer. I also really liked the words you chose, I feel like it really elevated your writing and made it sound more sophisticated.
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ReplyDeleteWhen Starr and her mother are at the police station the detectives are inquiring about Khalil’s life. Basically, Wilkes and Gomez are trying to prove that Khalil was a drug dealer and that he probably had a gun. Officer One Fifteen assumed that Khalil was a drug dealer and was most likely armed. The one thing that Starr’s father told her before the interview was, “ Don’t let them put words in your mouth”. Starr did a good job of not letting the detectives form the story by using bits of her information. She did not lie and told them everything that she witnessed and knew. For example, when Gomez asked if Khalil was a drug dealer, Starr said that she had a hunch but he had never told her anything. If Starr had lied it would have proved that she was in on the drug dealing to and Khalil was at fault for his own death. The detectives are trying to get Starr to say something that proves Khalil guilty and Officer One Fifteen innocent.
Prompt 1) In the book “The Hate You Give” the words ‘Thug Life’ are mentioned. The words ‘Thug Life’ as an acronym means; The Hate You Give Little Infants Fuck Everybody. I think the author choose this as the title to represent how the kids in the “Thug Life” were hated on, and not like other people, in the sense that they weren’t cared for as kids. In today's society it just shows how much support and attention you need to give your kids. By giving them the support that they need, it can help them to go great places, and they can be very successful in life. Whereas if you’re very down on your kids, they could end up not doing as well or going as far in life because they will have the mind set to be down on themself, instead of having a positive attitude.
ReplyDeletePrompt 2) When Starr is being questioned by the police, one of the questions that was asked was: “is Kahlil dealing drugs?” This confused Starr, because she didn’t understand what this had to do with Kahlil being shot. I feel like there were multiple reasons this question was asked. The first reason being that the detective knew that Kahlil was dealing drugs to people, and wanted to see how Starr would react, or what she would say to him asking this question. Another reason being he may have asked this was because he knew his job was at stake when he shot Kahlil, and he thought this may have been a way to avoid being fired from his job, if he looked like he had a reason for doing what he did. But I think I would be confused as well in the fact that, when Kahlil was pulled over, they didn’t have much of a reason for it. The officer also didn’t have any reason to shoot him, because all he was doing was running his mouth and he wasn’t a threat to the police officer at the time.
When listening to Tupac, Kahlil says “‘Pac said the thug life for “The Hate U Give Little infants Fucks Everybody.”’ (17). I think that means that the things you do to children hurt all of us when they grow up. I think the reason the author put this in the book is that it kind of describes the majority of African-American children’s lives. At one time or another most African-American children will get called names, given looks, or in some other way shown they aren’t going to be “normal” when they grow up. I think that the author put this as the title to show how African-American people are thought of. In the book Star often says that she needs to change herself to not be a “thug” and I feel like today that is really common. People will see an African-American person and assume they are stealing something, going to shoot someone, doing drugs, or another horrible thing.
ReplyDeleteI think the reason that the detective was asking about Kahlil was that she wanted to make it seem like it was okay for him to have been murdered. She wanted to make it seem like it was a good thing that 115 killed him, because the world was a better place with one less drug dealer, or one less gang member. When the officer “baited” Star by being sympathetic, and then started asking unfair questions about Khalil, Star was not having it, she did not want them to feel good about the killing of Khalil. When the detective asked if Kahlil was a drug dealer Star responded with true answers, but they weren’t the answers the detective wanted. Then they started asking star whether she was drinking or not, and she knew exactly what they were doing and what to say. She responded to being “baited’ quite well, I think, because if a lot of other people were in that situation they wouldn't keep a cool head like her, they would start yelling.
DeleteFor the first prompt, I completely agree with what you’re saying about how the things you do to children hurts all of us when they grow up. I like how you pointed out to support that, that most people fall into the stereotype that African-Americans are up to no good, and involved or responsible for horrible acts. That just shows that the hate you give will just keep being passed down and repeated today, and won’t get fixed just as you said. As for the second prompt, I really like how you brought up the point that the detective probably asked about Khalil selling drugs to try and justify his murder. You said that they probably think the world would be a better place with one less drug dealer or gang member, and I never even thought about like that but it makes a lot of sense that the detective could be trying to prove that to protect 115.
Prompt 1.
ReplyDeleteKhalil mentioned Tupac saying what thug life meant, The Hate U Give Little Infants Fuck Everybody. “meaning what society give us at youth, it bites them in the ass.” which I think is an important meaning for the book because whatever you do it gets passed down to the next generations which screws everything for them and they have to deal with their parents messes. When Khalil is talking about Tupac he claims that he is a good rapper and that what he has to say is actually important. It also refers a lot to Khalil because his mom has drug problems which caused him to start experiencing her messes which caused him to start selling drugs. Their parents messes are becoming the children's messes when they didn't deserve it.
Prompt 2.
When Starr is at the police station she is being questioned about what happened when Khalil was murdered. Mrs. Gomez, one of the detectives, started asking Starr about Khalil and if he was selling or did drugs. I think they were asking Starr these things because they wanted to have proof that the police weren't at fault for killing him. “Khalil Harris, a suspected drug dealer. They didn't mention he was unarmed” (page 104) there was no mention of him being unarmed and this was because I think they were trying to blame him for what happened and let the officer be. Starr had a very appropriate response and so did her mother, they were both shocked when the detective brought it up because even if it was true they don't want to believe it plus it wasn't necessary. The questions were just trying to get the history of Khalil but he wasn't being on trial, the officer was which is what Gomez should have been asking about instead.
Prompt 1.
ReplyDeleteKhalil tell Starr that Tupac said THUG LIFE stood for “The Hate You Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody”. I think that the author put this as the title of the book because in the story, Starr has to deal with racism in her life as well as her town split into kings and queens and are constantly fighting. Her friends don’t want to sleep over her house because their parents don’t want them around “The Hood”. Later Khalil gets shot by a cop because he moved when told not to. Khalil also goes to explain that Tupac said that because, “What society gives us youth, it bites them in the ass when we wild out” (17). This is relevant in our society today with many privileged parents coddling their children and protecting them from things that could possibly harm them. This is the “Hate” people are giving to the youth and it is screwing with everything because the children who have been coddled and helicopter parented their whole life do not know how to handle struggles in their adult life.
Prompt 2.
When Starr is being interrogated in the police station, the detective start asking her is she knew if Khalil sold drugs. Starr becomes infuriated because she realizes that her answer to this question could either justify Khalil’s death or keep the interrogation going. She says that she had no knowledge of Khalil selling drugs. The officer asks her if she had any alcohol. Once again Starr knows why she asked the question. She asked the question to see if Starr was a trustworthy source. Starr gets angry because she knows that the cop who shot Khalil had no knowledge of him selling drugs and therefore the police could justify Khalil’s death by saying they were killing a drug dealer. When all he wanted to do was ask if Starr was okay.
Prompt 1.
ReplyDeleteWhile Starr and Khalil were listening to Tupac not only does Khalil say that he is still the best rapper and that his stuff is still relevant he says that Tupac gives a meaning to Thug Life. He says that Thug Life stands for: The Hate You Give Little Infants Fuck Everybody. When he said this it hit me with a new realization of this saying. It said to me that all these people that life the “Thug Life” were hated as kids and as they grow up they don’t care about anyone else and that’s what leads to gang violence. That’s what this mean says to me now it says that no matter what you have done or what you have been through don’t bring it on your kids because all it will do is bring them into the same spot that you were brought to in Thug Life. If you don’t give your kids enough attention all your going to end up doing is raise that kid to walk around with a gun in his hand.
Prompt 2.
While Starr and her mom were at the police station they were getting interrogated about the event that had happened that night and what really went down. In this conversation between them and the two detectives, after giving her all the information about the incident the detective gets all friendly and then shifts the conversation to focus on whether Khalil had been selling drugs or not. I think that she was baiting her as Starr had said into the really reason that they brought them there which was to blame this whole event on Khalil and that he was selling drugs and was really going to grab a gun to shoot the cop. Starr noticed this and quickly shut her down and said that she had no idea or has not heard from anyone straight that he had been selling drugs. She knew he had been from the way he talked about it but he never truly told her so she was telling the truth kinda because she didn’t want the cop to get off free for straight up murdering her friend without a reason.